John Rogers was a Scottish trader who lived among the
Cherokee. He is most noted for being the father of the part
Cherokee Tiana Rogers, consort to Sam Houston, governor of
Tennessee and General and President of the Republic of Texas.
John Rogers is reported to have been a Tory Captain in the
British Army who fought in the Carolinas with Captain John
Stuart. [Anyone with proof, please contact me.]
Captain John ROGERS is sometimes referred to as Hell-Fire
Jack. Some say this name was given by the Cherokee because
of his hot temper. Others say that the name was given by the
whites because of John’s cohabitation with heathen Cherokee.
Others say that this is just a term invented by genealogists and
historians to designate him from another John Rogers, who is
called Nolichucky Jack. Hell Fire Jack is sometimes called John
Rogers, The Trader.
John Rogers is reported to have lived about twelve miles south
of Calhoun, Tennessee, on the Hiwassee River and had boats
plying on both the Hiwassee and Tennessee Rivers. He may have
been a man of wealth.
John Rogers appears to have married three part Cherokee
women (+++ See note below.) One marriage was to Elizabeth Emory, daughter of
William Emory and Mary Grant. Mary Grant was the daughter
of Ludovoc Grant, who married a Cherokee of the Long Hair
Clan. She had two sisters, Mary and Susanna.
John also married Jennie Due, a daughter of Elizabeth Emory by
a previous marriage to Robert Due. By this marriage, Tiana
Rogers was born about 1800 and she lived with Sam Houston at
Wilson Creek, Indian Territory, where Sam kept a crude store.
Tiana is buried in the National Cemetery at Fort Gibson on the
West side of the Officers Circle, Grave #2467. The tombstone
says: "Talahina Wife of Sam Houston". Some say that Talahina
is the Creek name for Tiana.
(+++ See note below.)The third marriage is less well known. Based on the granting
of Cherokee citizenship to one of her descendents, this wife is
reported to be Alsey Vann believed to be a sister of the well
known Chief James Vann.
John Rogers is often confused with his son John Rogers Jr., who
was born about 1776. John Jr. is also known as Captain John
Rogers for his service with the Cherokee troops of General
Andrew Jackson in the Creek Wars. He was elected Chief after
the death of his uncle, Chief OO-LOO-TES KEE or John Jolly.
John Jr. died at the home of Mrs. Eugenia Townsley, in
Washington, D.C., June 12, 1846, while presenting his claims for
possession or reimbursement for the salt works. The Rogers
were supplanted by John Ross, leader of the anti-treaty party,
who became chief of the Cherokees after the general Removal in
1826. Captain John Rogers and Colonel A. P. Chouteau had
established the salt works on the east side of the Grand River,
near the present town of Salina, in Mayes County, Oklahoma.
They manufactured large quantities of salt which was sold to the
garrison at Fort Gibson as well as the Cherokees and other
Indian tribes. Chouteau died in 1832 - possession passing to
Rogers. Then John Ross, Principal Chief, in the name of the
Cherokees, took over the salt works and gave the concession to
his brother, Lewis Ross. Ross asserted the springs were the
property of the national domain of the Cherokee tribe and might
be leased to a new party if deemed expedient. Captain and Chief
John Rogers, Jr., is buried in the Congressional Cemetery in
Washington, D.C. There were three Cherokees buried about the
same time; John Rogers, Jr., Thomas W. Starr and W. B. West.
Their grave sites are #89-90-91, Range 40. His grave has no
head stone.
Another son of John Rogers SR was James Rogers, a minor
Cherokee Chief.
Ancestry: We know very little about the life of this man before
he came among the Cherokee during the Revolution. One
researcher has stated that the Rogers family first came into
Wythe County, Virginia. From there William Rogers went to
Pennsylvania and his brother Ben came to Tennessee and that
Ben may have been the father of John. I have seen no data to
substantiate these claims.
References:
(1) OLD CHEROKEE FAMILIES by Starr.
John Rogers’ first wife was Elizabeth Due nee Emory and his
second wife was his step-daughter Jennie Due.
Captain John Rogers [Jr.] settled at Dardanelle, Arkansas in
1821. He was the last chief of the “Old Settler” Cherokees. he
died at Washington in 1846 and is buried in the National
Cemetery. The wives of John and James Rogers were sisters.
(2) WHITES AMONG THE CHEROKEES, GEORGIA
1828-1838, collected by Mary B. Warren and Eve B. Weeks.
“Whilst I was stationed among the Indians, in 1814, in command
of a detachment of United States troops, I became acquainted
with a white man by the name of Rogers, whose wife was a
half-breed Cherokee woman. He was an active, sensible,
thriving man, and his sons promising young men..” [George R.
Gilmer]
A long letter from Gilmer (Executive Department, Milledgeville,
March 10th, 1831) to John Rogers is included in the text. One
paragraph reads, “I believe you to be an excellent citizen. I
have heard the most favorable accounts of your two oldest sons,
for whom I have an affectionate remembrance. Yet, my advice
to you, and to them, is to accompany the Cherokee people in
their move [from Georgia to Indian Territory]. You can be
more useful, and consequently happier, with them than with us.
You will find that many of those who have been most active in
effecting your removal, will be your surest friends in securing to
you an independent Government, and every other advantage
tending to the improvement and happiness of your people.”
(3) SOLITARY STAR, A BIOGRAPHY OF SAM HOUSTON
by Donald Braider
“The Western Cherokees had been as completely Europeanized
as their eastern brothers. John Rogers, a Scotchman, had been
one of the first ‘squaw men’ of the American Southwest. he
had taken Oolooteka’s sister as his bride and got several children
by her.”
“Our information about Diana Rogers Gentry is maddeningly
skimpy. Not even her name is known, though she was probably
about ten years younger than Houston. The only portrait of her
is admittedly a product of pure imagination ... She was the
widow of David Gentry, a half-breed blacksmith who had come
to Arkansas as early as 1817 and died in a skirmish with the
Osages. .... After Diana’s death in 1836, she was buried near
Cantonment Gibson. Later, her body was removed to the
military cemetery. A headstone was set up over the grave,
bearing the inscription” “Talahina, Indian wife of General Sam
Houston.’ In death, the whites attributed an Indian name to her
she had never had.”
+++ Cherokee Biographies:
This web site indicates that John Rogers who married
Alsey Vann was not the same John Vann who married Jennie Due.
JOHN ROGERS (1)
Born: Scotland
Died: Arkansas Territory (Oklahoma)
Wife (1): Elizabeth Emory
Father: William Emory
Mother: Mary Grant
Children:
John Rogers Jr. (2) B: 1779 D: 12 Jun 1846 Washington,
D.C. M: Elizabeth Coody
Charles Rogers M: 1. Nancy Dowling 2. Rachel Hughes
Arky Rogers M: George Hicks 2. Dan Vickery
James Rogers M: Nancy Coody
Nancy Rogers M: 1. Looney Price 2. Nelson Grub
Wife (2): ALSEY VANN
Father: John Vann
Mother: Wawli
Children:
Polly Ann Rogers B: c 1787 Tennessee D: 1857 Texas M:
Samuel Dawson
Wife (3): JENNIE DUE (3)
Father: Robert Due
Mother: Elizabeth Emory
Children:
Anna Rogers M: 1. John W. Flowers 2. Thomas Irons
Joseph Rogers
William Rogers M: Nellie May
Tiana Rogers B: c 1800 D: c 1838 M: 1. David Gentry 2.
Sam Houston 3. Sam McGrady
Susanna Rogers M: Niclos Miller
Notes: 1. John Rogers Sr. was a Scottish trader who lived most
of his life with the Cherokee. He was reportedly a Tory Captan
during the Revolutionary War. He is know in the literature
variously as Captain John Rogers and Hellfire Jack Rogers.
2. John Rogers Jr. was the last chief of the “Old Settler”
Cherokee. He was a Captain of Cherokee troops of Andrew
Jackson in the Battle of Horseshoe Bend during the Creek Wars.
Like his father, he is known as Captain John Rogers.
3. Jennie Due was the wife of John Rogers and the daughter of
Elizabeth Emory, another of John Rogers’ Cherokee wives.
References:
1. J.D. Blackwell’s “Families of Samuel Dawson and Polly Ann
Rogers”
2. C.E. Moore’s “Genealogy of Patrick Magee and Rosanna
McCullar”
3. D. Braider’s “Solitary Star, A Biography of Sam Houston”
4. C. Garner’s “Sam Houston: Texas Giant”
5. M. James’ “The Raven - A Biographby of Sam Houston”
6. Starr’s “Old Cherokee Families”
7. Gregory’s “Sam Houston with the Cherokees”
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